I hope you all enjoyed the lesson on eminent domain. I think you all learned quite a bit, and hopefully you've already gone home and shared with your families what you've learned about this important issue. I hope that understand that anyone can be affected by this government "tool." Now I want you to sound off – I want to know what you think. Here's a little something to get you started:
"This is America. This is a country with free enterprise. You have all the rights to own your property, your own home, your own business. You have the right to build your American dream."
"The use of eminent domain is a delicate tool, but it is a tool and it helps keep a community clean; it helps keep a community vibrant. It's a good tool and, definitely, I don't think it should be taken away."
These are quotes by two of the people interviewed in the film Unintended Consequences: Eminent Domain. Use them to get your thoughts rolling. Does eminent domain have a role to play in our communities? What should government do to protect private property rights? What can we do as citizens to ensure that these rights are protected? I don't expect you to answer the questions directly (but you may as part of your thought process). These questions are intended to help you think about the issue.
This will be an open forum, which means your comments should post immediately. Do not copy the thoughts of those that post before you, but you can certainly work off of them. That means that you can comment on a comment – you can disagree, agree, or just comment on someone else's thoughts – but give me your ideas.
Your comments must be posted by Friday, November 30.
72 comments:
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When eminent domain was first thought up and used, it was a great thing. it was SUPPOSED to be used for public use. the idea was that if eminent domain was used to take property, then in its place there would be, say, a reservoir or a library or a school. the concept of eminent domain has been almost completely reconfigured and re-stated. now private property taken by eminent domain is usually shuffled into the hands of other private owners. this is outrageous!!! its also unjust. the founding fathers believed the right to own property was very important. so why in the world would it be acceptable to exchange a diner for more parking lot space, as from the Unintended Cosequences video?!? i think thats absurd.
Eminent domain does play a part in our communities, but can only do so if it's used right. and it's not right to simply hand someone a paper saying their house is condemned and pay them. a home is worth more than money.
The Bill of Rights was instated to protect us and our rights from the government. the government could certainly help in the fight to make sure eminent domain is used successfully and efficiently. it is the government's job to oversee the use of eminent domain and rule it being fairly or unfairly used.
We, (the people) cannot just sit back on our heels and wait for eminent domain to be sorted out. We need to act in any way we can to make sure our rights are upheld.
I completely agree with Tiff!!! Eminent Domain is being used for unjust reasons that do not seem like they are for public use at all, like in the video where land is being given from family homes to private buisinesses, that are only for that one business, and no one else is aloud.I think that's crazy!!! I also think that some of the " just compensation" is not actually just, which is completly unfair to the people that are already losing their homes or businesses. I think that Eminent Domain is being used should clean its act up, so that it is actually benefitting the public, and not just giving the tax colectors a greater sum (which in my point of view is not public help).
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Hello!!
It's me Zach!!!
Eminent domain (we'll call it ED) was used for public use most of the time for public use. But like the Kelo V Conetticut case they later used it for economic development. I think it is just wrong to do that. I mean COME ON!!!
Why would you take someones home or buisness away just to make new roads? I agree with Tiffany, that is absurd. ED is a tool that the goverment is using for their own desires. THAT IS WRONG!! I'm going to type that in again! THAT IS WRONG!!!! One more time! THAT IS WRONG!!!!! Besides I don't think that they are giving just compensation right.
Well I've Got GO!
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Tiffany and Leni really do make sense. I think that Eminent Domain shouldn't be taking property from people that don't want to leave. I think it should be where you have to either want to move and you are willing to sell your property to the government or if a person's house is a threat to the enivornment or the surrounding people. Taking property from people that have no where else to go if you kick them out is not right, but if it is causing servere problems to the area, then they shouldn't be able to live there. Also, homes and land shouldn't be taken from people and given to people who can afford to pay more. If it is taken from someone it should DEFINIATLY be used for public uses. Just as Tiffany said, turning a diner into a parking lot is pathetic!!!!
eminent domain is very important to our communities because it has the power to take any building and make it something new. For instance, it could take an un-popular school and make it into a Pizza Hut. Maybe the school has few people but at least the people going there are keeping it running! Eminent Domain is totally being used unfairly and to stop that we need better laws. I mean it is supposed to be up to the government but they dont even notice that people are losing their homes that may have been in their families for generations. There seriously needs to be more enforcement about eminent domain to protect the people who might be in danger of it.
I agree with Tiffany that eminent domain USED to be good. It provided the community with schools, hospitals, and roadways. These things helped the community, not the hungry businesses that were in the commnunity.
Now days, though, businesses are using eminent domain to take away property from other businesses and people, just because expanding their business will bring in more money. The goverment and more successful businesses are using this to develop the land in whatever way they see fit. I strongly disagree with this because it is stripping away the property rights of American individuals.
I see where people are going when they think that eminent domain can be used as beneficial tool. Eminent domain can provide the city with condos, malls, and factories. But what some people have yet to realize is that it's the people that make up the community, not the businesses, and no matter how many mini malls you place in a city, some of the real features that draw people to the city will be lost when people are forced to move out of their homes.
If America could just take one look at what is going on, we could fix eminent domain to work for the greater good, not the greater dollar. We could turn eminent domain back into what it used to be: a tool that helped the citizens of the community. We could begin to use it again for schools and libraries, instead of businesses and private owners.
I think we can change what Eminent Domain is today. I think people can send letters and start protests if they disagree with eminent domain use within the community. Protesting and sending letters may not get you anywhere today, but if the American citizens start standing together, we can change this and make sure Eminent Domain is used properly in the future.
Eminant domain to me is not to be used even for schools and libraries. i mean come on there taking away someones home it just is not right to me think they can take your home without getting into any trouble. it just does not seem fair to me you have the right to keep your house just because they want to put up a library or school should not mean they have to take someones house. imagine your house got taken where would you live then you'd have to start your life all over agian. i mean it is just not right at all it is not fair to me at all if you think about it. i mean there putting a library or a school in your houses place.
In my opinion eminent domain today seems unfair. Eminent domain is supposed to be used for public use, (like tiffany said) and is supposed to be used in a just way. The goverment today is taking property from one private owner and taking it to another private owner, if you ask me I don't think that would be defined as public use. Public use means things like roads, and schools and hospitals and libraries. The idea of eminent domant is being changed into some thing that it is not. While to the government is thinking that eminent domain is doing any good to society it is actually tearing it apart. When the Kelo vs. New london case happened you would think that if someone went though all of the trouble and made it to the supeream court because of eminent domain which happens all over the U.S. that the amount of eminent domain would decrease. Actually the aoumnt of eminent domain incerased. To me, if the govenment doesn't decides to stop using eminent domain with unjust compenasation (like tiffany)rights will totally be ignored.
Eminent Domain is sometimes not a great tool to use. I don't think it is fair for people to spend their hard earned money and precious time to build their business or home and get it taken away because some wealthier person needs your land to build something better like some mercedes-benz dealership. Other times it is good to use eminent domain. For example a rundown neighborhood needs remodeling and they need to tear down a few houses and other living quarters to make some up to date houses and other living quarters. I agree with that,but the people that are living in those rundown houses should be put into those new houses that they are building in exchange for their own home so they should be able to move in freely. I think the Supreme Court should give that idea some thought.ok back to the topic. Eminent domain used to be used for remodeling roads, schools, and libraries etc. It seems now adays that eminent domain is a crime. Destroying a persons property and putting them out in the streets and giving it to someonelse for better usage? It seems its cold-blooded dont you?
Wow Tiffany has a great point.
But the only thing i think is wrong is how she explained property going from one private owner to the next. It isn't totally outragous, though it is a little. They are fighting weather the taxes from a more profitable building is wrong or right. In some cases it is right and some cases it is totally wrong. Because taxes help bring in the money to build public buildings. But overall i'm on your side Tiffany.
Eminent Domain is really a great thing for the community, but not the way we have been using it. Eminent domain was originaly supposed to be used just to help the community (roads, resevoirs, hospital, schools, ext.)and for just compensation( paying you for the property that they are takeing). Now I think that is a great idea. But we have been using it just to take from one pravite proberty owner and to give to the next. But they do have an arguably point for doing so, for bringing in more taxes for the city. For a over all outcome the will collect money for the community to build public buildings.
That isn't how the constitution writers planed it, they just wanted it to be for building schools and roads, not gaining the money to do that.
My point is the same way, i think to take someones home you have to replace it for something that you public needs, not to help get the money for it.
We need to keep fighting for that right and i beleve that one day they will fall.
We voted for the rulers of the country I think we should vote on the boundarys of eminent domain.
Sometimes the government can get a little carried away with eminent domain.I think it should only be used for public use not for other people to take away and build condos.I agree with Tiffany about the founding fathers and that they believed the right to own private property and that it is very important.Eminent domain does play a part in our comunity because the government built Swiftcreek and Bucklake. Sometimes eminent domain is good for our comunity but can still get a little out of hand.I also agree with Leni that eminent domain shouldn't be used for tax colectors because that doesn't have anything to do with public use.I think we should stand up against eminent domain being used the wrong way beecause it doesn't make sense to take someones home to build a car dealersip or condos.It's just not right to me. Well I got to go!!!
tiffany's back!!
with more!!! :)
ok, i sorta agree with trevor, but, still, i stand by my opinion that the way eminent domain is being used now is outrageous. Dishing out more taxes?!?!? thats....outrageous!!! it just makes me think of money hungry people.
people who's lives havn't been disturbed by eminent domain have no idea what it's like for people who's lives are. pushing people out of their homes is just wrong. especially if the land won't be used to build something for public use. now, if what anticipated to be built is for pulic use AND it will bring more taxes, then sure, go ahead and build.
I also feel strongly that the "compensation" thats supposed to be payed is not being payed justly. It's not the actual owner of the house who's giving the figures. It's who's taking the house. Again, a home is worth more that just green.
p.s. thank you, peoples, for agreeing with me. and also trevor. who agreed with me "overall" :DDDD
p.s.s. hola senor veliz!!! :)
srry about leaving a double of the same comment. it wouldn't post and then all of a sudden it did. :)
Hi I'm back!!
I think that the people who's homes are taken by eminent domain should be able to move into the newer-remodeled houses (like diarra said), because that seems like just compensation, and the people that are living there (if they have kids) the kids won't have to get used to a new school because of school zone switch. I also agree with Courtney and Kaitlin that eminent domain USED to be a good thing, but until the government fixes up some of there uses of this "delicate tool" it is WRONG!! In the Kilo vs. New London case I don't see how the supreme court could vote in favor of New London, even though it was obviously not public use to put a private business in. In the video Ms. Kilo said that one of the ladies that was kicked out of her house was 100 years old, and that they did this the day before Thanksgiving, that is just plain MEAN that the government would take away an old lady's home righ before she is supposed to be thankful for everything. Also, in the video it said that the government went after the poor and elderly first, this is OUTRAGEOUS (tiff's word)!! If the government is going to take someone's land they need to do it fairly and not go after the weak (they also need to do it over summer break so that people have more time to get settled in {this meaning NOT the day before Thanksgiving})!!!!
I think that we (as the citizens of the united states) need to find some way to either put boundaries on eminent domain or take a stand against it.
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P.S. Hi everybody!!!
You all are doing a great job. I like the exchanges. It's obvious that you all are thinking. Keep up the good work!!
no tiffany i said yours was kinda wrong
no tiffany i said yours was kinda wrong
I think that the fathers of this country had a way different intent on what eminent domain was supposed to be used for. I (unlike some people) don't think that selling property to other private owners if they can create a higher tax revenue is public use, even if it eventually benefits the public. I think of public use as something that directly helps the public, not tax money that eventually helps the public. What I'm saying is that something like a school or a hospital is helping the community more than some extra money that most of it will go to the government for things like the armed forces or other things that don't effect the community or town as much. I think eminent domain is a good tool, when it is used properly.
Eminent Domain seems like a good thing at first then when it happens to you it is the most evil thing ever. Of course I guess it is not all bad like when they take your property for public use like schools and hospitals it makes it a little better but not much. Like Tiffany said I think all of us should act against Eminent Domain because if we don't like it we shouldn't have to just go along with it I mean it's our property we bought it we should do what we want with it the Government shouldn't just snatch that right away from us. But I think it is crazy to take someones house to build even publicly used property but to build more buildings that probably would polute our already poluted Earth and Country it is just not right. Also since we follow the constitution on every other law why don't we follow it on the Eminent Domain law which is probably the law that obtains to more people than any other. And further more that "Just Compensation" thing is so Dumb I mean it just makes it worse first you have to move out of your house then they don't give you enough money to buy a new house Gosh.
Idont understand at all why the govenment thinks that eminent domain is right. the only reason the govenrment is doing this is because there greety they just want more and more money they dont care us they want it all for themselves. they should have a law that says that the government CANNOT use it for anytihg other than public use. what I mean by public use is reservoirs,schools,and roads. I definintly dont think it should be taken away but it should be LIMITED. the problem is the government is in controland we cant do anything about it.
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i agree with eminent domain but then again i dont. i agree with it because it will go to public use. also we will make money off it that new building. eminent domain is also a way to help nieghborhoods gain more people which i believe is good because then if more people come theres more people to give money. then again they are just paying for themselves so it doesnt really help (unless they are using a soda machine of something).i disagree with eminent domain because no one likes having to give up thier business and sometimes home as well for the amount that they dont nessessarily agree with. also ever since new london won in the kelo case the goverment hasnt exactly used eminent domain for public use such a hospitals and school. an example is when the restaruant was torn down to expand the mercedes bendz dealership across the street (its parking lot). one way i think eminent domain can be inproved is by letting the person getting property taken away have a part in how much money they will get, and decide weather the use of the property is a public use or not.
the last entry,anonymous is christina
I think eminent domain was for good causes back then but not know, i think its happening too fast and too much. Eminent domain is when the government takes your property to make(build) roads, schools, and buildings.
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Again another comment by everyones friend Zach!
I agree with almost everyone who posted.
I don't agree with tiffany.
Not at alll!!!!!!!!!
HEY!!!!
THE COMMENT ABOVE...
THAT WAS NOT POSTED BY ME!!!!!!!!
MR. VELIZ!
I DID NOT POST THE COMMENT ABOVE
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